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This site is a personal blog. The site name is somewhat tongue in cheek. Rants and complaints are made knowing full well that criticisms can be ignored. Comments will be screened, censored and ignored as the admin pleases. One requirement is that posters must be combat arms vets. Tin foil hat fruit loops can post on KISSATA and militia sites. Many such posts will be and have been posted under an admins name to protect the guilty.
The Infantry Half Mile
Tactics and Violence of Action: corpsman @ Friday 05 March 2010 - 17:35:14
http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA512331&Location=U2&doc=GetTRDoc.pdf
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Lessons relearned, once again.
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Lessons relearned, once again.
30-06 shortage and the Garand
Ammunition: corpsman @ Friday 05 March 2010 - 17:35:02
In recent months there has an increasing shortage of 30-06 milsurp ammo.
Most of what was in the market is Greek HXP. Much of this came from the
Civilian Marksmanship Program. CMP ran out of stock late last year. Asking
bid starts on Gunbroker and Auction Arms run better than 80 cents a round,
up to $1.20, nearing and surpassing some commercial ammo costs.
Fortunately, CMP took delivery on enough Greek HXP to "meet the needs
of our customers for several years". This was concurrent with delivery of more
than 100,000 M1 Garands from the Greek Air Force. Being a Garand owner
I am concerned about the long run implications.
7.62X51 NATO is readily available, often at 50 cents a round. There is an
ongoing world wide military demand for this cartridge. Manufacturers have
incentive to make enough for non-military consumption, and older stocks
from numerous national defense forces are being steadily surplussed.
Converting a Garand to 7.62x51 NATO is a fairly simple process in the
hands of a competent gunsmith. A barrel change, enlarging the gas port
and installation of a plastic stop in the action to prevent accidental
loading of 30-06 rounds. Insure the barrel is marked 7.62X51 for the safety
of other shooters. My experience with a U.S. Navy conversion Garand showed
a slight degradation in accuracy and a marked reduction in perceived recoil.
The 30-06 clips work fine with the 7.62X51.
Note that some of the early military conversions used a steel insert in the
30-06 barrel to accommodate 7.62X51 rounds. There were problems with
extraction of the insert and dangerous chamber conditions. Be sure any
used conversion has a replacement 7.62x51 barrel.
Most of what was in the market is Greek HXP. Much of this came from the
Civilian Marksmanship Program. CMP ran out of stock late last year. Asking
bid starts on Gunbroker and Auction Arms run better than 80 cents a round,
up to $1.20, nearing and surpassing some commercial ammo costs.
Fortunately, CMP took delivery on enough Greek HXP to "meet the needs
of our customers for several years". This was concurrent with delivery of more
than 100,000 M1 Garands from the Greek Air Force. Being a Garand owner
I am concerned about the long run implications.
7.62X51 NATO is readily available, often at 50 cents a round. There is an
ongoing world wide military demand for this cartridge. Manufacturers have
incentive to make enough for non-military consumption, and older stocks
from numerous national defense forces are being steadily surplussed.
Converting a Garand to 7.62x51 NATO is a fairly simple process in the
hands of a competent gunsmith. A barrel change, enlarging the gas port
and installation of a plastic stop in the action to prevent accidental
loading of 30-06 rounds. Insure the barrel is marked 7.62X51 for the safety
of other shooters. My experience with a U.S. Navy conversion Garand showed
a slight degradation in accuracy and a marked reduction in perceived recoil.
The 30-06 clips work fine with the 7.62X51.
Note that some of the early military conversions used a steel insert in the
30-06 barrel to accommodate 7.62X51 rounds. There were problems with
extraction of the insert and dangerous chamber conditions. Be sure any
used conversion has a replacement 7.62x51 barrel.
The sad state of affairs at KISSATA from Seawolf 1090 on 02/15/10 via YUKU Email
Homeland Security: corpsman @ Thursday 18 February 2010 - 13:09:44
As Seawolf has not replied to my reply as of 02/18/10.................
From: rn49
To:Seawolf1090
Sent:February 4, 2010, 4:57 pm
http://civilianwarfighter.net/news.php?extend.30.11
______________________________________________-
SW's reply on 02/15/10:
Sounds like a serious case of Sour Grapes. If he likes the concept, he can do the same thing - no need to be nasty in such a jevenile and infantile fashion.
SW
______________________________________________
Reply to Seawolf on 02/15/10
Sorry you see it that way. I am attempting to light a fire under the arses of “leaders” on the KISSATA forum regarding recruitment and retention. Garand69 has claimed that KISSATA is making slow and steady growth yet he complains of spending a lot of time and effort over many years to recruit to his team, but has had little success. A review of the forum reveals clearly that few new members stay the course and most frequent posters have moved on. There has been a failure to assess this situation and develop effective recruitment and retention methods for both the forum and local team building. That such methods can and have been developed outside of the KISSATA forum is reflected by activity in my area. Fortunately KISSATA membership is not necessary to achieve such goals. The failure of the admin and other “leaders” to consistently enforce the forums behavior rules has actually contributed to local CIDG growth, something I did not anticipate. As well, trolling behaviors on other forums by KISSATA mods has contributed to that phenomena. Note that the few remaining local “leader” members, such as M4trigger and Bull, have utterly failed to develop their own teams.
None the less, the forum has proven most useful in providing a recruiting ground for several local CIDG teams who follow the KISSATA concept but who do not participate in the forum to any significant extent. The same is true of the militia sites. Have you had team development success? If so, have you contributed solid advice and information on the KISSATA forum with respect to how you accomplished your team building?
From: rn49
To:Seawolf1090
Sent:February 4, 2010, 4:57 pm
http://civilianwarfighter.net/news.php?extend.30.11
______________________________________________-
SW's reply on 02/15/10:
Sounds like a serious case of Sour Grapes. If he likes the concept, he can do the same thing - no need to be nasty in such a jevenile and infantile fashion.
SW
______________________________________________
Reply to Seawolf on 02/15/10
Sorry you see it that way. I am attempting to light a fire under the arses of “leaders” on the KISSATA forum regarding recruitment and retention. Garand69 has claimed that KISSATA is making slow and steady growth yet he complains of spending a lot of time and effort over many years to recruit to his team, but has had little success. A review of the forum reveals clearly that few new members stay the course and most frequent posters have moved on. There has been a failure to assess this situation and develop effective recruitment and retention methods for both the forum and local team building. That such methods can and have been developed outside of the KISSATA forum is reflected by activity in my area. Fortunately KISSATA membership is not necessary to achieve such goals. The failure of the admin and other “leaders” to consistently enforce the forums behavior rules has actually contributed to local CIDG growth, something I did not anticipate. As well, trolling behaviors on other forums by KISSATA mods has contributed to that phenomena. Note that the few remaining local “leader” members, such as M4trigger and Bull, have utterly failed to develop their own teams.
None the less, the forum has proven most useful in providing a recruiting ground for several local CIDG teams who follow the KISSATA concept but who do not participate in the forum to any significant extent. The same is true of the militia sites. Have you had team development success? If so, have you contributed solid advice and information on the KISSATA forum with respect to how you accomplished your team building?
Reply to the sad state of affairs at KISSATA by justaguy
Homeland Security: corpsman @ Monday 15 February 2010 - 05:41:03
Justaguy,
Have to agree with most of your perspective. When a morbidly obese (but generally nice guy) from Colorado makes irrelevant insults about competence yet ignores the real issues of growth and leadership, I find myself despairing the future of the national CIDG movement. One particular long time KISSATA poster makes the claim that KISSATA is making slow and steady growth. Oh, come on! It is easy to discern from a review of the forum to that few new members stay the course and that the majority of frequent posters have moved on. At least CIDG it is actually growing in this area. One aspect KISSATA has right is that the militia sites provide a fertile recruiting ground.
Have to agree with most of your perspective. When a morbidly obese (but generally nice guy) from Colorado makes irrelevant insults about competence yet ignores the real issues of growth and leadership, I find myself despairing the future of the national CIDG movement. One particular long time KISSATA poster makes the claim that KISSATA is making slow and steady growth. Oh, come on! It is easy to discern from a review of the forum to that few new members stay the course and that the majority of frequent posters have moved on. At least CIDG it is actually growing in this area. One aspect KISSATA has right is that the militia sites provide a fertile recruiting ground.
The sad state of affairs at KISSATA justaguy |08 Feb : 05:44
Homeland Security: corpsman @ Monday 08 February 2010 - 23:53:14
As a member of the Kissata forum I'll chime in, IMHO, It is the concept of the CIDG that is the important issue, not, the personalities behind it.
Some of the founding fathers were less then pleasanrt people. Whats imporatant is freedom, liberty and our god given rights that must be preserved and protected.
I liked the Kissata idea but seems to be a bit narrow in focus. So I did what is natural for a solider- adapt, improvise and overcome! IF Colonel Klick don't like it oh well.
Kissata is only an old idea wrapped in a new package. leaderless resistance has been around for a while. What's in a name?
As for the mods, well, there is always at least one in every unit. Never let the bastards get you down. If your not loved hated or talked about your not living.
I refuse to get into a pissing contest with a mod about anything, I don't care if you own 50 Garands and drive a truck, I prefer to think for myself.
What's sadly lacking is leadership. That's a skill that has been rarely discussed. Snide remarks, pettiness and insults do not inspire or motivate troops. If morale sucks the troops won't fight, if the troops won't fight then.....
I just take KIssata for what it is- A simple concept
that is a good place to start.
As always-Keep up the Fire!
Some of the founding fathers were less then pleasanrt people. Whats imporatant is freedom, liberty and our god given rights that must be preserved and protected.
I liked the Kissata idea but seems to be a bit narrow in focus. So I did what is natural for a solider- adapt, improvise and overcome! IF Colonel Klick don't like it oh well.
Kissata is only an old idea wrapped in a new package. leaderless resistance has been around for a while. What's in a name?
As for the mods, well, there is always at least one in every unit. Never let the bastards get you down. If your not loved hated or talked about your not living.
I refuse to get into a pissing contest with a mod about anything, I don't care if you own 50 Garands and drive a truck, I prefer to think for myself.
What's sadly lacking is leadership. That's a skill that has been rarely discussed. Snide remarks, pettiness and insults do not inspire or motivate troops. If morale sucks the troops won't fight, if the troops won't fight then.....
I just take KIssata for what it is- A simple concept
that is a good place to start.
As always-Keep up the Fire!
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