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As a member of the Kissata forum I'll chime in, IMHO, It is the concept of the CIDG that is the important issue, not, the personalities behind it.

Some of the founding fathers were less then pleasanrt people. Whats imporatant is freedom, liberty and our god given rights that must be preserved and protected.

I liked the Kissata idea but seems to be a bit narrow in focus. So I did what is natural for a solider- adapt, improvise and overcome! IF Colonel Klick don't like it oh well.

Kissata is only an old idea wrapped in a new package. leaderless resistance has been around for a while. What's in a name?

As for the mods, well, there is always at least one in every unit. Never let the bastards get you down. If your not loved hated or talked about your not living.

I refuse to get into a pissing contest with a mod about anything, I don't care if you own 50 Garands and drive a truck, I prefer to think for myself.

What's sadly lacking is leadership. That's a skill that has been rarely discussed. Snide remarks, pettiness and insults do not inspire or motivate troops. If morale sucks the troops won't fight, if the troops won't fight then.....

I just take KIssata for what it is- A simple concept
that is a good place to start.
As always-Keep up the Fire!

One person has asked me why I am so worked up about KISSATA. To reiterate, I am not at all worked up about the KISSATA concept. IMHO it deserves serious consideration by anyone concerned about family and community security. My issue is with the personal behaviors of certain individuals who are KISSATA moderators. I have been insulted, lied to and about and I find that intolerable. My wife has been severely embarrassed after expending considerable effort, money and social capital developing a program to assist the growth of KISSATA, only to have such efforts insulted and ignored. There has been a steadfast refusal to publicly acknowledge the issues underlying my personal outrage. There has been an overt effort to intimidate me into backing off. That is unacceptable. As one of the mods recently wrote me "I would be pissed, too."

from the blog of Pam Roach:


Sunday, January 31, 2010
It Is In The Genes....And Trained By My WWII Vet Dad
It's OK for a man to shoot well in the minds of the press...but not a woman I guess. They like to go after me on this issue and ridicule me. It is women like me who pass on the genes we hope our sons have when they go to Iraq or Afghanistan. It is women like me who do not show fear...but rather...teach the Constitution as something to be cherished. I want to share this story again. It was kind of fun and I do remember it! Thanks John.

"About ten years ago I was at the Tacoma Sportsman's Club with my oldest son and two of his friends going through the standard rifle training protocols. The boys were about 16. At the same time, the club house was being used to host the annual Republican Lincoln Day celebrations.
A man and a woman approached the range on foot. The man was Richard Sanders, then and now a state Supreme Court justice and an acquaintance known to me from the 70's and 80's as a libertarian activist. The lady was Pam Roach. On invitation, she picked up a M14 rifle and fired a 10 round x-ring group offhand* at 100 meters. No prep or warm up, she just ripped them out. She represented the epitome of gun control. Both of these people have been aggressively targeted by so called "liberals" from both parties for their pro-constitution stands. Keeping them in office and electing more such people is a most worthy goal."

John Long

offhand: standing and without leaning on something that would steady your shot.

The KISSATA concept is elegantly simple. The man who developed the concept, "Commander Klick" manifested a measure of genius. The focus is on developing armed and prepared local teams with the goals of maintaining the integrity of family and community in the event of government failure and/or disaasters. The primary identified threat is terrorists. Cooperation with law enforcement and the military is emphasized. The web forum has been around for about 5 years and is a treasure trove of great information and advice. Well, much of it, anyway. Point is, it is well worth several site visits. Problem is, there is little evidence of significant growth in terms of numbers of forum contributors and group gatherings over the last 3 to 4 years. This makes no sense to me. The utter practicality and relative simplicity of the KISSATA concept lends itself to having great potential to grow at a rapid rate. I can only conclude that there has been a failure to adequately assess the marketability of the concept and follow thorough with the results of such assessment. The personalities who dominate the postings on the forum do not appear to be oriented towards effectively spreading the KISSATA concept. There was an opportunity for significant funding of a national PR campaign about 8 months ago but an idiot who uses the handle M4Trigger on the forum blew that completely out of the water with some remarkably juvenile insults and lies. The failure of the administrator to effectively address the issue sealed the matter permanently. I continue to be amazed at how easily fools can screw up a perfectly functional concept. I know of at least 3 and maybe 4 local teams that follow the KISSATA concept yet who do not formally identify with KISSATA or post on the forum, largely because of the above mentioned foul ups.